Lazar Jovanovic is a full-time professional vibe coder at Lovable. His job is to build both internal tools and customer-facing products purely using AI, while not having a coding background. In this conversation, he breaks down the tactics, workflows, and framework that let him ship production-quality products using only AI.
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We discuss:
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Why having no coding background can be an advantage when building with AI
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Why most of your time should go to planning and chat mode, not prompting
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What to do when you get stuck: his 4×4 debugging workflow
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The PRD and Markdown file system that keeps AI agents aligned across complex builds
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Why kicking off four or five parallel prototypes is the best way to clarify your thinking
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Why design skills and taste are going to be the most important skills in the future
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His “genie and three wishes” mental model for making the most of AI’s limitations
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How product, engineering, and design roles are converging—and what that means for your career
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Where to find Lazar Jovanovic:
• X: https://x.com/lakikentaki
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazar-jovanovic
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@50in50challenge
• Starter Story course: https://build.starterstory.com/build/ai-build-accelerator?via=lazar (code LAZAR15 for 15% off)
Referenced:
• The new AI growth playbook for 2026: How Lovable hit $200M ARR in one year | Elena Verna (Head of Growth): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-new-ai-growth-playbook-for-2026-elena-verna
• Elena Verna on how B2B growth is changing, product-led growth, product-led sales, why you should go freemium not trial, what features to make free, and much more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/elena-verna-on-why-every-company
• The ultimate guide to product-led sales | Elena Verna: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-product-led
• 10 growth tactics that never work | Elena Verna (Amplitude, Miro, Dropbox, SurveyMonkey): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/10-growth-tactics-that-never-work-elena-verna
• Lovable: https://lovable.dev
• Lovable + Shopify: https://lovable.dev/shopify
• Everyone’s an engineer now: Inside v0’s mission to create a hundred million builders | Guillermo Rauch (founder and CEO of Vercel, creators of v0 and Next.js): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/everyones-an-engineer-now-guillermo-rauch
• Mobbin: https://mobbin.com
• Dribbble: https://dribbble.com
• 21st.dev: https://21st.dev
• Lovable base prompt generator: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e1da2c9c988191b52b61084438e8ee-lovable-base-prompt
• Lovable PRD generator: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e1e85fbeac8191a69b95c6d5c42ef6-lovable-prd-generator
• Felix Haas’s newsletter: https://designplusai.com
• Bauhaus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus
• Glassmorphism: https://www.figma.com/community/plugin/1197106608665398190/glassmorphism
• UI style guide: http://uistyle.lovable.app
• Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com
• Ben Tossell on X: https://x.com/bentossell
• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can’t stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell
• Peter Thiel says AI will be ‘worse’ for math nerds than for writers: https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-ai-worse-for-math-professionals-than-writers-2024-4
• Andrej Karpathy on X: https://x.com/karpathy
• The 100-person AI lab that became Anthropic and Google’s secret weapon | Edwin Chen (Surge AI): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/surge-ai-edwin-chen
• Why experts writing AI evals is creating the fastest-growing companies in history | Brendan Foody (CEO of Mercor): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/experts-writing-ai-evals-brendan-foody
• Slumdog Millionaire: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1010048
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Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.